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Johnny Depp To Play The Riddler?

July 30, 2008

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Bridget Daly

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Johnny Depp is reportedly going to be a part of the next Batman installment playing the Riddler. And not only that, but execs want Philip Seymour Hoffman to play the Penguin.

Them, plus Christian Bale…talk about an all-star cast!

The Dark Knight has brought in $440 million worldwide so far, so they have their work cut out for them for the next Batman to be just as successful.

What do you think of Depp as the Riddler and Hoffman as the Penguin?

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Reader Comments

0:10AM 07/31/09 tassieguy

that would be good to see Johnny Do the Riddler gig he is just a great Actor.

0:41PM 01/07/09 xtheinertiax

Umm, yeah this is bullshit. First off, they don't know if they are making another movie or not. The Riddler thing with Depp is clearly a rumor. And I watched an interview with P.S. Hoffman and he said that he wouldn't accept the role as the Penguin, that he would rather see someone else do it, plus Christopher Nolan wasn't interested in using the Penguin as a character anyways. So who ever posted this is a moron.

7:31PM 09/15/08 cory reece

I read the guys story earlier about his idea for the next movie, so here is mine. I think it should have one important idea from the long halloween comic that the dark knight came from. The idea that the mob was being pushed aside and that crazies were taking over the crime in the city. Joker talks about it in the movie. Alright, here goes. The riddler enters the movie as a super genius that is bent on using his intellect for fame and capital gain. He gets hired by the police as nigma to find batman after he solves the case of the holiday killer. Meanwhile, he joins what is left of the mob with his secret identity of the Riddler, promising them the same thing as the cops, to bring down batman. He begins comitting crimes with his signature riddles that only batman can solve. The riddles lead batman to realize that the riddler is challening him. His riddles tell batman that he must use the riddles to discover who the riddler is, before the riddler can discover who batman is. Meanwhile, the riddles are actually a trap that help the riddler uncover batmans identity. The point being that riddler tries to prove that he is smarter than batman if batman cannot see through the riddles for what they really are, a trap. The entire time the riddlers plan is to play the part of the riddler to rip off and destroy the mob in order to become rich and discover batmans identity and then to act like he, as nigma, found out the secret. Thus, becoming the rich and famous nigma. Meanwhile, you have riddler hiring smaller less known villians in the batman universe to destroy the mob, like maybe bane, mad hatter,the ventriloquist or someone else.

11:31AM 09/15/08 Shawn

I agree JOSEPH GORDON LEVITT as the joker...his like what 27 yrs old now and i looked at the mans picture look alike of Heath.. next joker hands down....100%

11:27AM 09/15/08 whysoserious

Joseph Gordon Levitt should play as the joker as a tribute to late heath ledger..he looks exactly like ledger..johnny depp as riddler and Clay face as daniel lewis, penguin who knows

6:16PM 09/14/08 jen

I am a huge fan of Johnny Depp and his work, so i think he would be an excellent Riddler. As far as the Penguin in the last batman with Danny Devito I did not think it was such a great part of the movie. But either way the next batman is going to be great, might be hard to surpass the dark knight though.

6:50PM 09/13/08 niel

Danny Devito will definitely will fit as the Penguin Johnny Depp will fit as The Riddler...

0:58PM 09/12/08 Scott

Actually, if he leaves Penguin's role as a mob leader, instead of a fishy sewer-surfer, it could probably be pulled off in a fashion suitable for Nolan's darker take on this saga.

7:10PM 09/11/08 jp

in my opinion i dont think there is any actor that could come into this movie series and play the joker like heath ledger. as far as johnny depp as the riddler would be very interesting. i'm pretty sure he would be the best person to bring out the dark side of the riddler the same way ledger did with the joker. lets face it the new series of movies are leaning towards a darker side of the story instead of being made for kids like the old ones.

3:20PM 09/11/08 jerry goodman

i feel that deep is a great choice hoffman is a good actor too but i feel they need to bring back the joker cuz well he was great and i feel that steven dorf wold be the best for the role of joker

1:06PM 09/10/08 brd

JOHNNY DEPP AS THE RIDDLE? ARE YOU KIDDING ME!! IT GOING TO BE THE BEST MOVIE EVER!!! JOHNNY DEPP IS A GOOD ACTOR AND CAN DO PRETTY MUCH ANYTHING....CANT WAIT FOR THIS MOVIE!!!!

6:12PM 09/08/08 Randi

I think Johnny Depp is pretty much good at anything... anything he plays he is amazing, so i dont know, And i dont know who the riddler is either so.. Yeah *and i shook his hand:]*

8:56PM 09/07/08 lis

Angeline Jolie as poison ave! johnny depp as riddler..hellz yea...!!!!! cat woman as winona ryder...yup..!!!

4:50PM 09/05/08 Steve

Johnny Depp would make an excellent choice as a replacement for Heath Ledger as the Joker. Imagine it - he would be great as the Joker. However, as great as Johnny is, I just don't see him as the Riddler. Hoffmann would be a great pick for the Penguin. I agree, Jim Carrey is a natural for the riddler. But Frank Gorshin was the best and always will be...

9:08PM 09/03/08 Legacy

What in the name of all that is Holy? I think J. Depp is way too cool for another sell-out "Batman" movie. Say it isn't so.

7:47PM 09/03/08 SCC

Heellllooooo!!!! Johnny Depp can play ANYTHING! There is no film of his that i have seen where he has only been "ok". He always pulls through and i think that he would do a great job!

7:47PM 09/03/08 coolguy

this is cool

4:38PM 09/03/08 jlee

Are you guys insane?!! look at all the strange charecters Depp has done. Edward scissor hands, Jack Sparrow, Willie Wonka. Now we all know that the theme of this film is going to stay dark so how can you be anything but excited to see what Depp has up his sleeve for this?! Sinical, Crazy,Narcissistic,Wonderful. I'm so excited!

4:12PM 09/03/08 deathBox

if anyone should play the joker it should be paul bettany the joker should let loose two face (that would be if they decided to bring him back and i got the solution to bring him back, since Gordon and Batman decided that his work would be undone if the public find out what what he did) so the joker let's him loose to show Gotham his master piece as far as the riddler and johnny depp playing him it could work it should work but then again knowing Nolan's work he will do something real good with the characters he decides to bring except robin no one can do something good with Robin and as far as Scarllett playing Harleen Quinzel should be played by Sarah Michelle Gellar and Catwoman i think Kate Beckinsale or Gina Gershon there you have a little piece of my mind

1:46PM 09/03/08 Mr. J

How about this.. the joker (played by Depp) is placed at Arkham asylum which is run by Kirk Langstrom. At Arkham he is the patient of Dr. Harleen Quinzel (played by Scarlett Johansson) who falls for her crazed patient and eventually help him escape. Paralell to this story is of course the fight between batman and anyone of his many great enemies (possibly the riddler) though i do think they should hold of catwoman for sometime and for gods sake no robin!

0:52PM 09/03/08 Gina Lola

Come, on, that jackarse that claimed Johnny Depp could kill the role of the Riddler is a natural born idiot. Johnny Depp also didn't kill the Jack Sparraow character, hell he was the best thing about the damn movie series. He carried the POTC movies with a terrific supporting cast. If he really ends up being the choice for the Riddler then I am all for it. He would be fantastic, and he should take the role seriously, this Batman series is finally as dark as it always should have been. And even though I know Tim Burton has always had a hard-on for Johnny Depp ie that Barber movie, Edward Scissorhands, Charlie and the Chololate Factory, etc etc, Tim Burton went a completely different direction with his avante garde gothic victorian edged style of movie making for the 90's Batman movies with Michael Keaton, a bad choice for Batman I might add. The first and second Batman movies were almost too cute, I mean I liked them for the style there were made to emulate, but you can't compare the current series of Batman movies. I am sick and tired of movies getting too cartoony. It's about time we got a comic book based series which doesn't cater to just 9 year boys and their parents. Can't wait for the next installment of the Dark Knight!

10:30AM 09/03/08 Mr. J

ithink johnny depp would be a great riddler (though i think he also could replace heath)

4:59PM 09/01/08 rommeldb

erase the crazy and weird description ... better yet, choose ... witty. nolan is customizing batman characters we knew to bring out something more serious, propelling and mature. this we all know was proven on The Dark Knight.

0:07AM 09/01/08 fisherman

I would say that they should look for some one to do another joker because they left you completely cereouse about the joker. I mean come on we dont even know what his name is.

0:01AM 09/01/08 nicholy21

But I do agree that they should spred the villains out but I dont think that they will ever put in clay face or killer croc But who knows?

11:52PM 08/31/08 nicholy21

bLuRagKiddCa what movie did you watch he laghd alot and he was definetly not sereous he was sicodic. He laughd when he fell off the top of the tower how SEREOUS is that?

5:33PM 08/29/08 ohlookamovie

I've heard a few names thrown around of them two sounded the most prominent. One you know, Mr. Depp, the other Jude Law. However, sure they both could probably "do" the part and very well, however I don't think they can "fit" the part as the riddler has to be a maniacle genious. And they have to look normal with red hair, so. Anyway, I realized that Guy Pierce (or w/e) would play an awesome Riddler. He hasn't made that many movies but the ones he did he pulled off nicely. as a side note, penguin is only seconded to two-face as far as my favorite batman villains. :-/

0:58PM 08/29/08 stephooo

Johnny Depp as the Riddler...YESSS! absolutley, i can see it! The penguin..HELL NO, he sucks and i dont think ANYONE in their right mind who actually knows a good movie when they see one would disagree with me.

6:08AM 08/29/08 Hassleberry

How about Jack Black as the Penguin?

2:26PM 08/27/08 bLuRagKiddCA

god dammit i meant catwoman x!!! lolz

2:21PM 08/27/08 bLuRagKiddCA

the riddler is not a coward and the penguin is not a snitch both of these characters are great batman villians...the penguin is the owner of many casinos,nite clubs,bars is the boss of his own mafia style gang eats raw fish and fingers,kidnaps babies thats pretty pyscotic enuff for me and everytime batman trys to shut him down he always pulls out another cool type of umbrella weapon,he would never give batman any info but lies and deceit...as for johnny as the riddler he would do an excellent job depp already looks like him and he would have no problem mastering nygma's dark brilliantly insane personality but i also think he would make a great joker ledger's joker sucked he barely even laughed and was made too act way too serious which is a role more for the riddler,2face,mad hatter etc joker is an out of control insane laughter no matter what hes doing while hes killing,being interrogated,being beaten by batman,while being chased by batman his eyes hair or eyebrows weren't even green nope i didnt like heaths own lil twist 2 the joker u cant just change a characters originality like that but the darkness of the joker was good hopefully the next joker will be more crazy wacko out of control insane actually jim carrey would have been the best and perfect fit joker for the ninty's movies but they rushed it wit nicholson who was too old and a lil chubby but he still did a good job and wit the laughter, and they shouldn't put anymore villians in it besides riddler and penguin in the 3rd installment maybe throw joker and 2face back in to make a couple appearences but they should save other villians for later movies cuz batman has so many intresting enemies like catman,mad hatter and killer croc should be the cast for part 4 maybe mr freeze, clayface and robin in part 5 etc keep it small like that but don't just rush too many of them in 1 movie cuz theres so many we can enjoy batmans continuations for many years to come this new directer nolan guy is fucking great x!!!

11:19AM 08/26/08 SlashBeast

The whole Johnny Depp as the Riddler thing is a myth started by the National Inquirer. People are missing the point of having this character in a third film, if he's played eccentrically (as Depp would portray him) then he would just become a watered down version of The Joker. I think the Riddler should be a behind the scenes guy who you probably don't see until the concluding act (very siminalr to Kevin Spacey's character in Se7en) of the film and he leaves clues as to the crimes he's going to commit which contain all the knowledge to prevent them if decoded in time. The Riddler should come off as a more cowardly character and I think Crispin Glover could pull that off far better than Johnny Depp can.

11:15AM 08/26/08 Kayuno

No. This is an awful decission. What we need is David Tennant as the Riddler. As a long running fan of the Batman series (comics and all) Johnny Depp would not even come close to getting the right personality of the Riddler. He would ruin the character. We need someone who can put true, genuine energy in to the character, not some fake smiles just for his fan girls.

2:29PM 08/25/08 TheDarkKnight

first of all any of you tht dont think johnny depp would be a good riddler ur retards he's prolly the best actor of our time all around without a doubt ya heath did an amazing job an will always be remembered and sure maybe they wont find another to top is performance but if anyone could come close itd be johnny depp they no what there doin

7:26PM 08/23/08 JethroTugs

Hows this, if, and only if the penguin is in the movie, i like the idea of the informant to batman. And what if the penguin was played by Anthony Hopkins? He would make a great, inteigent villan, and daniel day lewis as riddler could work, but i don't really see him as a villan. He has the tallant, but i can't see him as a bad guy

10:00PM 08/21/08 That Guy

The thought of Hoffman as penguin is good, but bad for these movies...Depp as riddler would work but, and probably have 2... Tim robbins back in the day would have been the right pick for riddler..

9:15AM 08/20/08 John Williams

Pretty nice site, wants to see much more on it! :)

2:20AM 08/19/08 India

whooooooooooo i love johnny depp to BITS!! him for the riddler plzzzzz x

9:07PM 08/18/08 nicholy

who wont do what

5:15PM 08/18/08 heather

he wont do it

11:18PM 08/17/08 nicholy

Also I hink that it would be a good idea to put the joker in again because at this point we dont know a single about the joker and I persinaly would love to better undertand the joker.

11:03PM 08/17/08 nicholy

Depp as riddler would be good. But I would make him the joker no one could possibley reaplase heath but Depp would be better as joker than the riddler and dont think they should do pengwin yet because if they do then there will be 3 different villains to face because its also a rummer that angaliena jolie will be playing catwomen.

5:13PM 08/16/08 nojomo

Depp as riddler would be great>. i would hope to see a darker version tho and not some attempt to recreate the crap that jim carrys batman forever riddler was.

2:06PM 08/16/08 Big Gabe

Not so sold on depp as the riddler But super super sold on hoffman as the penguin. And sorry to those who belive the penguin is a bad idea u guys are not batman fans here is what I think johnny depp as the next joker would be perfect hoffman as the penguin and I want to see the comic book Mr.Freeze on the big screen not the one aronld S destroyed

9:27AM 08/16/08 klohse

Also, the villain pool for Nolan's style of Batman is limited but two characters that are less known but fit the current themes are Black Mask and Anarky. Black Mask is a Ra's al Ghul-esque character and Anarky is a teenage prodigy who hates the government, he is more or less a good guy just very violent. Anarky could make for an interesting moral battle inside of Batman. Just a thought.

9:01AM 08/16/08 klohse

Johnny Depp would do a good job as the Riddler, he does an amazing job researching his roles and making the character his own. However, I believe Hugo Weaving was born for the role of the Riddler. Weaving has an air of superiority about him when playing Elrond in LOTR that is a must for the riddler and he has shown in V for Vendetta that he can pull off complicated and quick paced rhetoric. Hoffman as the Penguin doesn't seem like such a great match, but you never know. In all honesty I can't picture anyone playing the role of the penguin well, at least not the type of penguin Nolan would want for his film.

0:27AM 08/15/08 Jake

Haha i've been reading some people's responses to this. Wow you people are smart critics. Lol Ed Norton? Crispin Glover? I'm sorry but I don't see that as a better replacement. You guys obviously don't watch Johnny Depps acting as much as I have. He doesn't bring his character from another movie into another movie. Pirates of the carribean depp playing the riddler? doesn't make sense. I see this as a perfect role. Depp is super creative. GREAT ROLE FOR HIM.

8:04AM 08/14/08 Leo

hey Logan...John (the dude 2 spaces above you) doesn't suck, he's regurgitating what "Anonlurker" said...read all the comments please

7:36AM 08/14/08 Chrissy

EEEEEEEEEEEK JOHNNY DEPP!!! He shoud definitely play this part. He is such a brilliant actor. I wish Heath wouldn't have passed away though, cuz there could've been this epic battle between batman and the joker again. Heath Ledger will definitely be missed.

5:56AM 08/14/08 Israel

Jhonny he is great , he can play any roll he could ,ve done the joker as well, he can do the riddler i have no doubt about it he is great ...but i think that they can do another movie with a joker and Jhonny sould play it very well..he 'd do it even better than the dark knight one .

5:52AM 08/14/08 mark

There is no doubt that the riddler or the penguine would be great in Batman 3 however maybe they should go a different direction and introduce some new characters. IE mad hatter it would be a breath of fresh

8:23PM 08/13/08 Courtney

yall are all insane!!! johnny depp is a great, smart, sexy, wonderful actor n yall need 2 realize he is gna b awesome n the new batman movie n ur all gna look so stupid tlkn bout him, n youll see!!! heath ledger was more than great n the last batman movie and i expect johnny depp may evn live up 2 his performance or even better!!! and as 4 the penguin i hav no idea who those ppl are that ur tlkn bout but i thnk that jim carey would do great as penguin, theyd jus hav 2 make him fat!! hes crazy and he waz good as the grinch so....yea!!!!

10:59AM 08/13/08 mike

I think Casey Affleck would make the ideal riddler.

6:25PM 08/12/08 eric

Honestly, i have full convidence in Nolan, he has never led me astray thus far and not just with Batman. Not only that but Depp is like my favorite actor, i think he would be awesome as the Riddler. Im all for it. Feel free to toss in the penguin as a side guy, like two face to the Joker, but the Riddler should be the main focus.

11:38AM 08/12/08 benjamin james taylor

without a doubt, depp would make an excelent riddler, and hoffman would perfect his role as the pengiun, but these are still nothing but rumors

10:52AM 08/12/08 Logan--i am a girl

i believe that johnny depp can pull off pretty much anything…so why not the riddler…the pictures above ( to me ) should prove it…they both have that smirky smile…and if you follow depp’s acting career(like me), you will know he is one of the most versatile actors out there…who cares if he is well known…so was Heath Ledger(r.i.p)…i do agree with weird bob, the film should try and go in a different direction because its going to be hard to top the dark knight!…i hope the riddler comes a long somewhere in the batman series of this generation…John(the dude two spaces above me)...you suck...he does not leave a dirty mark on everything he touches...everything he touches turns into an award...hows that for dirty?!

8:19AM 08/12/08 Johnny

I want the MAD HATTER!

10:39PM 08/11/08 John

Did you take a time machine from 10 years ago to this forum? ----------------------- Johnny Depp? Are you serious? Are you talking the same Johnny Depp who was a cute kid in 21 Jump Street, and then got so deep into drugs that he let druggies deal in his bar. . . the same bar where his best friends little brother OD'd on heroin and died? If Johnny Depp is in this movie, I will have to say, NO WAY. I have enjoyed new Batman series of movies, but I won't go to anymovie with Depp involved in it. He leaves a filthy mark on everything he touches.

7:41PM 08/11/08 cindy

Johny depp as the riddler!!?? HELL YEAH!

7:19AM 08/11/08 Jason Kauffman

I love the depp idea for the riddler as much as when i heard about ledger playing joker...they both fit those parts great. How about maybe someone like vin diesel as mr. freeze. He will definately do better than arnold

2:10AM 08/11/08 hotshot

i loved all the batman movies as a kid and to tell you the truth i really cant see no one else playing the riddler other than jim carrey i mean when i think riddler i think jim carrey...never liked the penguin

0:07AM 08/11/08 anonymous

the riddler's name is edward nygma so thats not it

0:07AM 08/11/08 anonymous

the riddler's name is edward nygma so thats not it

11:58PM 08/10/08 frank douche

i have fallen love with jhonny depp we're getting married the 39th of of octvember 1234 so its all good

7:51PM 08/10/08 wiseguy

I agree with marvel fan. When I saw that he found batman's identity out I connected him with the riddler as well. Also he works for Wayne enterprises, like jim carrey's riddler did. Although I'm not sure if they'll use the same actor, I haven't seen him in anything else to prove his abilites to pull off such a complex role, especially after Heath.

7:15PM 08/10/08 TeraMascara

Angeline Jolie as Cat Woman!

0:46PM 08/10/08 marvel fan

Regardless who they choose for the Riddler( if they even decide to do so), I'm sure it will be fantastic. It probably won't be as good as TDK but it will fit the series. One point I will mention is the fact that the Riddler discovers Batman's true identity...ummm what about the character in the movie who works for Wayne Interprises and attempts to reveal the truth. He will likely be the Riddler because not only does he know Batmans identity but now he has a reason to want to kill the citizens of Gotham. I mean they tried to kill him didn't they? And remember "what doesn't kill you only makes you stranger!"

8:09AM 08/10/08 timo tea

great ideas but not all that great!!!! nolan has said himself that he is not intrested in the penguin....PERIOD!!! as for the riddler... gary oldman has pointed out that it is very very strong canidate for a next installment.... but remember two-face is not dead!!! he is the main villan joker WAS supposed to be on trial throught the 3rd movie.... nolan has even stated it.... if depp was to be in the franchise... wait for it.... THE JOKER only depp could pull it off!! but joker would be good to end the series... mayby like the end of the first movie batman begins... just a callin card ... "I BELIEVE IN JOHNNY DEPP" JOKER IN BATMAN3... EVEN IF IT WERE JUST A SHORT CAMEO!!! PLEASE.... KEEP HEATHS LEDGERS JOKER TRUE AND ACCURATE.. BUT DONT TAKE IT AWAY FROM THIS.. HE WOULDNT HAVE PLAYED HIM IF HE KNEW THAT PEOPLE WOULD SAY... "NAH LEAVE JOKER OUTA IT, HEATH WAS TOOO GOOD" FUCK THAT!!! MIND YOU HE PROBABLIY WOULDNT HAVE PLAYED IT AT ALL IF HE KNEW WHAT WAS GONA BE THE OUTCOME!!!

11:08AM 08/09/08 Gurrfuffull

johnny depp and hoffman would be intense as the riddler and penguin. Anyone who says otherwise isn't living a good life :)

11:05AM 08/09/08 levi

Think of everything Johnny Deep has done role wise in movies, to think he wld be anything short of great as The Riddler wld be insane.Hoffman is an awesome actor, The Penguin is just a beat role .

7:35AM 08/09/08 Eric M. Moran, Sr.

People are under the unfortunate delusion that the studio bosses are rarely wrong. The truth is, they are rarely right. Casting Mr.'D' as the riddler is an error in the making - and a costly one. Unless Warner's strategy is to go kid - friendly ala 'Pirates', this character calls for some dead serious demented brilliance. Look at how records were shattered with this latest outing; to the suits, I say stay the course and don't grab for the B O name draw with all the bells and shiny ribbons. There is only ONE performer today with the proven track record that WILL deliver on the emotionally tangled, yet mentally facile and creative Riddler. No disrespect to all the others, Brett Rickaby knocks 'em ALL out tha' box, ya heard? If you DON'T know, ya better ask somebody.

11:07PM 08/08/08 Kristen

Johnny Depp is a wonderful actor in every movie he is in, but don't you think that would be to obvious to follow a great movie like Dark Knight? I think they need somebody that has strong features, that looks more intelligent rather than only looks. Maybe Adrian Brody from King Kong? He's darker, and a great actor that could carry the movie, and he's somebody different for a change. Also, I think Catwoman would be a great co-villian for the riddler...I was thinking that maybe they should have Scarlett Johannson play Catwoman because she's a temptress and a great actor. No more bad actors to follow Dark Knight...

8:15PM 08/08/08 shane

I think that depp was born for the roll of riddler.Besides after seeing hes acting in sweeny todd i think i could see riddler be a lil more crazy. To be onest i think if there thinking of taking a charecter out it should be robin.

5:19PM 08/08/08 cheryl

johnny depp as the riddler, ALL GOD YES. i love him, he can play so meny roles and play em off with no problem. as for the penguin,Philip Seymour Hoffman "who". i dont care for the penguin part

10:27AM 08/08/08 Todd

I love the idea of Deep playing the Riddler. Adding th Penguin in this film will kill it, especially with Hoffman.

10:16PM 08/07/08 Tom

Can I just sya the Penguin is cool but he was mastered in Batman Returns and does not have the elements for this particular Batman sereis wich is dark and sinister. Jhonny Depp however would make a good Riddler

0:13PM 08/07/08 MIchelle

Johnny is the greatest, no doubt. As far as I'm concerned it's already in the can, I've seen it and he was brilliant, as usual. He never gets near enough credit for his acting ability as he deserves.

11:33AM 08/07/08 cindy myhra turner

Johnny is the best actor of the last 20 years. Anything that looks like a creative challenge, he will take on with a vengeance,(Sweeney aside, no pun intended).He's the most iconic of any out there, willing to take risks, to find something better to give the film audience different angles to any character. Those of you who disagree, just don't get it!!

8:54AM 08/07/08 Colin

I like Depp as The Riddler and Hoffman as Penguin. He wouldn't be the Penguin like in Burton's. In fact, I think the penguin has already been established in Nolan's world. In marketing for TDK they had The Gotham Times, and one of the ads in there was for The Iceberg Lounge, a nightclub in Gotham. This Penguin would just be the owner of the club who does dealings with criminals. He and Batman would have a sort of give and take relationship. Batman would turn a blind eye to some of the Penguin's criminal doings in the club in exchange for information on certain criminals. I think it could work if done properly, meaning no flying umbrellas. Looking forward to seeing how things progress with this and if these rumors go anywhere.

7:24AM 08/07/08 Kofi Outlaw

I’ve been working out a script in my head that combines the following villains: Clock King, The penguin, the Riddler, Bane, Talia Al’Ghul. And, as a rival vigilante: Azriel Here’s the treatment so far: Film opens with Temple Fuget (The clock king) walking into a Gotham corporation in broad daylight. He’s spent weeks casing the place, and has a series of watches strapped to his arm set with timers counting down moments of movement, ie, he has every employee/security guard’s habits down to the second so he knows when they’ll take a leak or look away from his desk. This brazen robbery goes perfectly, until he stumbles upon a couple getting randy in a supply closet he ducks into. It’s a clock hand blade for those poor bastards. The Clock king makes into the CEO’s office just as the guy goes to piss, downloads files onto a jump drive and walks right out again. Meanwhile, in the narrows, we see a young man sitting in a dark, dreary apartment staring the wall. Suddenly the old, cracked TV set turns on revealing a wall of flames, a coin appears in the middle of the flames reading “St. Dumas”. A speaker recites rhetoric demanding the young man avenge those slain in the Clock King’s robbery, by decree of St. Dumas. The young man stands up, pulls his hood over his head and leaps from the window. The Clock King meets with the last of Gotham’s mobsters not arrested or slain by the Joker, delivers the flash drive and is paid handsomely. The mobsters depart, Clock King is on his way out when he runs into Azriel. CK is amused, thinking it’s Batman and at worse he’s going to jail; until Azriel pops his arm blade and informs CK that “he has him confused with someone else.” Azriel kills CK, fulfilling the cause of vengance, and disappears. Comissioner Gordon and his men show up to investigate the CK’s death. Gordon’s cops are all convinced it’s Batman but Gordon knows better. Batman and Gordon have a convo in the shadows (Gordon steps away, he’s started smoking since Two-face’s attack on his fam) and Batman pledges to find this new copycat killing bad guys. The mobsters take the CK’s stolen flash drive to the one man left in Gotham who can help them: Oswald Cobblepot. See, Oswald was a mobster, but was smart enough to launder money the right way and go legit. Publicly, at least. Just don’t call him “the penguin” or you get shot. The Mobsters have stolen a database of all Gotham’s corporate ventures across the board, including Wayne Tech. Scared by Batman (even more scared by the Joker) they have a new plan: mix their illicit fortune with corporate money, thereby “buying” majority shares in Gotham’s top companies and ergo, “buying Gotham.” The penguin lets them know he has the smarts to help them, if he gets something out of it. A deal is struck. The mayor, feeling public pressure, declares that since Batman is now seeming to kill on a whim, he can’t leave it up to Gordon’s discretion to bring the vigilante to justice. So he’s appointing a special investigator to track Batman down, a serial killer wiz who happens to have a knack for crossword puzzles and other newspaper brain-games. His name is Eddy LAST NAME and he’s been looking for a challenge like the Batman, whose motives are unknown, unfamiliar, original. Gordon thinks the guy is nuts. Final thread: Bruce Wayne has nothing but Batman left in his life. He sits in the cave under Wayne Manor 24/7 working overtime to both eradicate the remaining, warring mobs, the new crops of costume crazies springing up, and bring Batman up to the stature of a hero. It’s draining him, more than anyone would like to admit. One night in the gave Bruce has an ill feeling and starts tossing Batarangs into the shadows. Sure enough, ninja have invaded the gave, seemingly aware of the Bat/Bruce connection. A quick fight ensues until a pair of hands clap and the ninja fall back: Talia Al Ghul makes her entrance. She gives Bruce a speech about how her father groomed her to be his successor (until he met Bruce) and how the League of Shadows had a splinter cell known as the Order of St. Dumas. When Ra’as fell, The Order was activated as plan B, and Azriel was dispatched to Gotham (the Joker’s appearance expedited the League’s plan, as Gotham appeared to be producing the worst evil imaginable.) Talia was curios about Bruce and so came to see for herself who this 1 in a million man was: she explains that he is the only man EVER to carry out the fight for justice at sacrifice to all else in his life. Azriel she explains, is a programmed sleeper soldier, only-semi aware of his vigilante actions, controlled by syblminal suggestions (The “program”) inculcated in him by The Order. Talia’s motives remain unclear, leaving Bruce wary, but, attracted nonetheless. The rest I’m mapping out in my head but it involves The mob using the penguin’s contacts to hire Bane; Bats and Azriel having a physical/moral rivalry; Bane kicking the shit out of Batman; Azriel running around Goth

6:03AM 08/07/08 John

Depp nails EVERY role he takes, regardless of how well the picture does. Him as the Riddler would be great. I am huge Johnny Depp fan, but even he will have to bring his A+ game to take on Heath's Joker.

9:41PM 08/06/08 Martin

personaly, There hasnt been a role Depp has played and failed at, Like heath, Johnny depp gets really into his roles too, and I think hed be perfect for Riddler, as for Jim carry...Ridder was never supposed to be a Goofy Funny guy, I thought it was retarded. and as for penguin...I could care less.

9:00AM 08/06/08 marley opre

i noticed that all you guys that don't like johnny choose actors similar to jim carrey to play the riddler. think of this: heath ledger is extremely different from the iconic jack nicholson version of the joker and he did a way better job than nicholson (i'm sure we all agree), now with johnny as riddler you can only expect a waaaaay better character than jim carrey did. so let's wait and see the movie...

7:32AM 08/06/08 sue ellem

eeeeeeeeeexcellent !!!!!!!!! he's the man to play the riddler !!!!!!!! good luck Johnny !!!!!!!

0:04AM 08/06/08 Janey Depp

Couple of weeks ago, I said to some folks after I saw the movie that if they were to bring the riddler into Batman3, Johnny Depp is pitch perfect. Some people may disagree, but set aside your dislike for the man himself, but the roles he takes on I can not see other high profile actors in his league playing the roles he did. Some doubted Heath would play a good Joker, so no doubt in mind, I believe (trust) that Mr. Depp would do his best to live up to The Dark Knight's success. I know this guy wouldn't disappoint us. I love Johnny, he somewhat looks like and reminds me of my husband, and they're both Geminis!

6:37PM 08/05/08 nick salerno

Johnny depp no doubt!!! , the penguin is the worst villian ever no doubt!!!

11:15PM 08/04/08 billyshakes

How about Paul Bettany as the Riddler? He was considered for the Joker back in the day, but I think he could do well as the Riddler too... I think they might do better to go with someone people won't expect- like they did with Ledger...

9:46PM 08/04/08 DarkKnight

depp as riddler = No penguin = No Cat Women = Hell No. Crispin Glover as riddler = maybe Daniel Day-Lewis Riddler = maybe

6:37PM 08/04/08 ryan

Daniel Day-Lewis as the Riddler, enough said.

10:03AM 08/04/08 Besty

Depp to play Riddler would be good but do not like idea of Penguin or Catwoman in next installment of Batman movie. I would prefer to see some more big names added also.

0:41AM 08/04/08 anonymous

how about john malkovich as the riddler?

0:23AM 08/04/08 VulturesUnited

Okay, a lot of you are idiots, straight up. People who say penguin and riddler is a good match, are wrong. Those of you who say catwoman might be a good choice, you are wrong as well. And those of you who think Johnny Depp would play a great Riddler are wrong for sure. Johnny Depp is a decent actor but he can kill a role if he takes it to seriously. Lets examine the once loved Captain Jack Sparrow, he was a good character until Johnny killed it. Johhny Depps voice and acting skills just don't fit the Riddler even though he does have some talent. No folks you're going to want an actor who can look outside the box, maybe Ed Norton, or even Crispin Glover, they might be good. See the reason Riddler is such a threat is because he is the only villian to ever discover batmans true identity, so this villian has to be taken somewhat seriously. I mean Johnny Depp as the riddler? I can see the dialog now. Riddler Depp: Eh batman, Riddle me this, riddle me that, you can have gotham and I get the pearl, savvy?"

5:56PM 08/03/08 HEXREM

Nolan has a large advantage in his film making, because he makes to films tangible, withdrawing any "camp" factor. It is a safe bet that the Riddler will be included in the third movie, but not just because of the admirable character strengths. Nolan probably realizes the Riddler offers a viral campaign he couldn't refuse...making "why so serious" a thing of the past. The Penguin is not suitable for the Batman universe, plain and simple.

11:11AM 08/03/08 MattyViolence

Well The Johnny Depp as the riddler rumor sounds pretty sweet. On top of that the penguin could be logical saying that he is no longer a villain in the Batman universe he has become an informant, and because his intelligence they could bring him on not as a true penguin like person deformed at birth but an eccentric informant that helps Batman out with the Riddler's deadly puzzles, so i can see it happening like that, but any other way would be terrible. Nolan also in the past had said if possible he would like to throw the penguin in there somewhere but not as far fetched as he is in the books, and he originally was talking to Bob Hoskins for the role who had showed some serious interest in it, but Hoffman doesn't seem to work for me.

11:01PM 08/01/08 Jacob

Johnny Depp as The Riddler sounds like a good choice to me, he's a great actor, if u look back on most of the characters he's played in movies they're really unique characters, especially the way Nolan's villians are portrayed as dark psycopaths, most of Depp's roles are weird and crazy, from edward scissorhands to jack sparrow, even secret window, he seems like a good choice, and for Philip Seymour Hoffman, he's a good actor and if u think about it who else would be better for the part of The Penguin? plus I don't think The Penguin will be as big a charater in this movie as The Riddler, just like Two-Face wasn't that big of a villian in The Dark Knight, he was Harvey Dent, a good guy, and at the very end he was Two-Face, but these are all just opinions

8:34PM 08/01/08 Anonlurker

Johnny Depp? Are you serious? Are you talking the same Johnny Depp who was a cute kid in 21 Jump Street, and then got so deep into drugs that he let druggies deal in his bar. . . the same bar where his best friends little brother OD'd on heroin and died? If Johnny Depp is in this movie, I will have to say, NO WAY. I have enjoyed new Batman series of movies, but I won't go to anymovie with Depp involved in it. He leaves a filthy mark on everything he touches.

6:15PM 08/01/08 giggy

How 'bout Borat as the Riddler...LOL.

6:13PM 08/01/08 goodkat

the riddler is perfect they should no doubt bring back two face he only had 30 minutes of screen time as for catwoman they should hold off for a while but it would increase the conflict of the movie. the penguin maybe later but not right now.

3:55PM 08/01/08 mtlycru86

Chris nolan wont do penguin, i read an article that said he was to comicy. and the penguin is a stupid character anyway. in my opinion. Johnny as Riddler, i dunno hard to say. I was reading that they want someone who can match or do better than Heath, sorry that wont happen, someone has to come in and not try to do better. Johnny is versatile but i cant see him as riddler, sorry.

9:43AM 08/01/08 sk8ting99

I think the idea of pairing the penguin with the riddler fantastic! Too many people here seem to think though, that the portrayal of these villains will be like the ones from jím carrey and danny devito. Well folks, my guess is that if Nolan brings them back everyone will be totally stunned in what a direction this fabulous director pushes them. hey Depp for riddler would be great. To throw in another name: Viggo Mortensen.

7:14AM 08/01/08 spuzmunkit

balls to the penguin idea and johnny depp would be a grat adittion to the batman movies

9:35PM 07/31/08 TdarkK.

Johnny Depp as the riddler could work, you never know with Nolan, he said Heath would be great and everyone doubted that, but look what it has become, and penquin, well NO.

6:18PM 07/31/08 Rizo

I wish they could get Jim Carrey to play the Riddler again.. i guess Johnny Depp will do but idk, i can't picture him playing the Riddler.. i think i love the idea of Hoffman for the Penguin

2:48AM 07/31/08 TP3

Johnny Depp ohhhhhhh hell YEAH! The Penguin sucks.

0:50AM 07/31/08 Samy

Johnny Depp! The Riddler! Yeah Right! Aaa phooee!

7:31PM 07/30/08 anna webb

i love johnny as riddler, but the guy who plays falcone needs to be the penguin

4:07PM 07/30/08 Brent

False... you had me until you said Penguin, which everyone involved says they don't want.