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Angelina To Have Natural Delivery

June 04, 2008

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Angelina Jolie is planning on having a natural childbirth. It hurts just thinking about it! Angie was planning on natural childbirth for Shiloh, and was disappointed when she had to have a C-section. So now she's praying things will go as planned and she'll be able to deliver the babies naturally.

Sources say Angie is already on bedrest, and there's no way she'll be carrying the twins to term. So they're all settled in their temporary home in France with a midwife and nurses standing by!

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Reader Comments

7:16AM 07/24/08 Princess Yeti

Brangeloonies. God I LOVE that! It will drive her obsessed online insulters absolutely nuts. Brangleoonies!!

0:14PM 07/21/08 K

Yeti: I'm with you! I just came to this thread to say the same exact thing! ALL these morons bitching and lecturing about VBAC's and she goes and has a c-section just like we knew she would!LMAO! She could've gotten a c-section in the USA, oh but that's right, she wouldn't have had time to recoop from her tummy tuck and boob job because our hospitals would've thrown her ass out after 4 days. Unlike the UK that allows 8 to 10 days. Hmmm, wonder why she really had the babies out of the country? Why did all these freaks honestly think she would go through with a vaginal delivery? When will they realize that she bullshits the media to make herself look like a superwoman! But some of us have the radar for a bullshitter - unfortunately common sense hasn't made a comeback for most of the brangeloonies! lol

7:02PM 07/19/08 Princess Yeti

For all of you name callers out there with your substandard IQ..........ANGELINA HAD A C-SECTION just EXACTLY like I and many others said......MWAH HA HA HA HA HA HA!!!! Damn its hard being right so much but then I guess you name calling bloggers wouldn't know. Ha ha apparently you know just what everyone on here already thought-NOTHING! HA!

1:40PM 07/04/08 melissa

I do not know where some of you got your medical training but I am an m.a. and I had both! and the doctors even in the united states do perform vbacs and there are women who have natural with twins. I happen to know one who is my friends mother and she had to have a csection and then she had natural with twins. In fact since then she had another two... Why is everyone always pushing for cesareans when the chance of infections and death are considerably higher...think about it the drugs could knock you out if you get general anesthesia and you don't come out of it...It happened at a nearby hospital for a woman delivering twins....

8:16AM 07/01/08 susan

oh yeah i just run the world didnt you know that? silly girl.. isnt it funny they think its all me... i guess between catching babies (6 this week all healthy and well 2 vabc)and taking care of my famiy i have nothing better to do thatn to make up alter ego's... what a trip.. you made me laugh so much thanks for that.. hehehheh

0:06PM 06/30/08 patty

Soooo?? is mamab really susan too....Is everyone who supports natural childbirth,midwifery,VBAC etc. named Susan to all of you sheep?

11:50AM 06/29/08 mamab

PrincessYeti--I hope I never end up in the pathetic hospital for which you are employed. Your rantings are a ridiculous attempt at sounding intelligent. Maybe a career change is in order? Your words are simply more proof to support that birth does NOT belong in the hospital in the hands of those who do NOT comprehend the workings of NATURAL BIRTH. Birth is NOT an emergency, birth is NORMAL, a physiological, natural process. YOU AND YOURS have MADE birth a medical event and the statistics have shown that your interventions are continuously failing women. Hospitals are NOT improving the birth system for women. Heard of childbed fever? Twilight sleep? Numerous other interventions that are doing nothing to improve the maternal/fetal mortality rates in our country? The US is among the worst for maternal/fetal mortality rates, and yet we have among the HIGHEST rates of c-sections, inductions and other interventions. Anyone who can read should look into books by Dr. Marsden Wagner "Born in the USA", writings by Obstetrician Michael Odent (google his name and read anything he's written), and books by Sarah Buckley like "Gentle Birth, Gentle Mothering", among others. It's pretty obvious that anyone who doesn't think Angelina can do this, just doesn't have any idea how birth works and hasn't done their research so there is absolutely no sense in even arguing. I'll come back when someone here has a clue.

11:41AM 06/29/08 mamab

If Angelina Jolie actually decideds to have a VBAC it goes to show that she HAS done the research and made decisions based on the facts, rather than just doing what is convenient ie c-section. If she does decide to go the route of vbac then she isn't like all the lemmings out there who don't care about the health of their babies or themselves and just opt for the brainless choice of risky surgery. And vbacs are possible even with twins. I had a vba2c!!

7:21AM 06/28/08 stop the madness

Patty, you're a little late to the party. Everyone went home dear. Go take your facts and discuss them with someone who cares to listen. I'll also assume this is Susan using a different name. Out of 60 posts, those are the only two names you defend? You're transparent AND dumb.

8:21AM 06/27/08 patty

Who are all of you vicious freaks.. yeti,jennifer,brooke etc.This coversation has degenerated so far its got to be a joke.Yeti should be arrested for killing babies if she really had sooo many blue babies die in her arms. She is either full of it or was criminally negligent in her former claimed profession.CPD can usually be determined before onset of labor (WHO says not me.)What were you doing not transfering these women??!!I know midwives who have practiced for 10 years plus and have never lost a baby during birth (Midwives for low risk OBs for high risk=a very successful concept in many nations); yeti you phyco. The WHO stats; the leading world authority in medicine; clearly show industrialized nations with higher C-section rates have higher mortality rates. When more babies are dying here than elsewhere, lets figure out what is wrong. Susan and Susan don't waste your breathe here there are many seeking knowledge none on this forum obviously

8:06PM 06/24/08 jenniferM

and a huge fake I agree and am laughing big you too. Susan ur an idiot.

2:14PM 06/23/08 susan

you are not very clear, an imitation of what? no it is clearly slander glad you can still laugh... yes i admit i cant type a big pet peeve for some and i dont spell well either. we all have our little faults.... at least i can admit mine freely. i am nothing if not human.

5:56PM 06/22/08 Brooke

So who are you now? which susan? Slander? No way just pointing out that you are imitation and not even very good at it. So you and Ang really do have something in common. hahahahaha.

7:11AM 06/19/08 susan

excuse the typo's guess your only defense is name calling and out right slander.. silly brooke

10:23PM 06/15/08 Brooke

and both Susan's? what-eva! You are susan, both susan's its so obvious! You really are a fake!

10:20PM 06/15/08 Brooke

Susan, you aren't so convincing as an expert at anything. Do you mean to say that you were educated enough to deliver babies and make all these claims and yet you can't even spell correctly? I am not at all swayed by your fourth grade declarations. Princess Yeti is correct and well known on here for being very to the point. Where are your studies? Off of the internet? My goodness you can find anything on the internet. Even fourth graders know that. Who is laughing now? hint: everyone at you.

4:10PM 06/15/08 susan

who is a fake and just how were i or the other susan exposed did i miss something? NOT! hey susan did we miss someting? i have been a midwife for 15 years with more births under my belt than most..i am and alwys have been a leader never a follower which is why i do this.. which iswhy just because some supposed exper says so i still questiona and ask for more info.. in order to make educated decsions. i never take or accept anything blindly, and neither should anyone.. so again fyi and princes yeti where ar those darn studies.. notice i didnt stop to name calling lets be less antagonistic folks..its just proves my point. having a good laugh over this everyday... thanks for the laughs.

0:06AM 06/15/08 kellie

Yay!! Thank you Princess Yeti! Susan needed to be put down like a dirty dog. Credentials my ass. She is totally exposed for a fake!No wonder she loves Ange so much because it sounds like she is just as stupid and just as bad abut lying about it. Ha ha HA!

7:33AM 06/13/08 susan

oh wow lets allhang our shingles so we can feel more self important

7:32AM 06/13/08 susan

hey fyi i do have credentials internationally recognized so back off.

0:36AM 06/13/08 Princess Yeti

For those who need to know what I and almost EVERYONE else on here understands that you DON'T know is that CPD is Cephalopelvic Disproportion. Not rare in fact EXTREMELY common. As a Nurse with a Master's Degree I can assure you that CPD has absolutely nothing to do with "getting off your back and pushing." I have seen and participated in uncountable deliveries that consisted of desperate mothers pushing for hours and hours on end trying to birth their babies. CPD is a condition where the cranium of the fetus is simply too large to pass through the ischial spines of the pelvis. How sad that you should resort to insults over a matter you clearly do not understand or accept. I worked as a midwife for several years before I went back to seek a MASTER'S DEGREE in nursing. I chose to further my education because I helped to deliver too many blue babies who didn't survive because of this very serious condition. Several of these deliveries might have yielded a viable newborn had the delivery taken place in a hospital with the technology to perform a C-section when a monitor detected late decels indicating fetal distress and with the equipment and skills of professionals qualified to resuscitate and provide support to the baby. Shame shame on you people who would rather sling insults than deal with reality. I have three healthy children ALL of which were born in a hospital and none of which were delivered by C-Section including my youngest child who weighed 10lbs 13 ounces. Frankly I couldn't have pulled that off at home and unassisted. Angelina Jolie is ridiculous but some of you need to stop living in a dream world because I agree that your delusional rantings could endanger someone else and their innocent unborn child.

3:27PM 06/11/08 vbacmama

Way to go Angelina!! Its about time hollywood sets a good example for the rest of the world!!! Dr.s who don't allow vbac? just another reason to see a midwife instead. And btw, I had NO trouble finding several providers to attend my vbac and I had 2 c-sections before my successful vbac.

5:20AM 06/11/08 fyi

ec: Look hon, save your lectures for people that care. Personally, I have delievered vaginally but I have no problem with a c-section if it's necessary. It's nice that you've done your "research", however, you are not an MD. I think it's unfortunate that Jolie had to fly all the way to Nambia (out of country) to deliver Shiloh by c-section. She could've stayed in the US for one of our silly doctors to do that, right? And I do choose to name call when half of this thread is acting like a bunch of quacks but yet have no credentials to back it up. Just b/c you give birth doesn't make you an expert on modern medicine. And you want to blast everyone that doesn't agree with your theory! For those of us who think Jolie is nuts for trying to push out twins after already having a c-section, well that's just our opinion (we read too). You put people on the attack when you instigate an argument with Princess Yeti. You became antagonistic. Tone it down a notch. You need to grow up dear.

4:32AM 06/11/08 susan

yes yeti and where are those wonderous sudies again? help us get understand your point of view.. here is mine..the state in which i live our infant mortality rate is 9.2 per thousand ( the states stats not mine) and the reasons given in order from highest to lowest are changes in prenatal care practices (HUMM) increase in c- sec (HUMMMM)and lack of access to prenatal care ( that means they cant afford it and there arent enough docs) and last assisted fertility. which is interpreted by the state not me as docs encouraging folks who shouldnt attempting pregnacy giving birth prematurely enough to cause fetal demise...cpd isnt even on the chart... in 450 births i have only seen true cpd once... because the babies elbow was locked in mom's back.. i have attended breaches twins and inumerable vbacs with great results only one resulted in another section.. so when you becoe a midwife or a doctor yourself you can then speak the truth... doctors are humans they are affected by the frailties of the rest of us... midwives always do whats best for moms and babies.. pregnant woman are not just incubators and not one mother woudlnt do what ever she needed to to protect her baby including defying convetional prenatal care and delivery..

11:50PM 06/10/08 ec

Princess yeti, here is how you solve CPD, get off our BACK and actually push in a postion that you were meant to. Lying on the back while pushing (like what is done in most hosp.) actually causes your pelvis to close in. So get up and squat, if you can feel your legs in order to do that. According to the American Pregnancy Association, true CPD is RARE and in the true cases 65% can still deliver vaginally. I have never met one natural/ homebirth/ unassisted birth advocate that did not recognize that sometimes there is a need for a hosp and a OB (Trained surgeon). However that is not the norm, more like 5-10% of all births.

11:41PM 06/10/08 ec

jenniferM, I have actually SAFELY delivered 2 babies at home long before Angie joined the natural birthing community.We are not Angie FOLLOWERS more like SUPPORTERS b/c we have done extensive research and understand that she is making a great decision. Honestly, you are the only one that sounds DUMB! Why don't you go do some actual research instead of just placing all faith in your dr. and your medically interventive births. Good luck w/ your c-section! After years of researching, I can honestly say that you are the one putting your child at risk by choosing an unnatural birth w/an OB. So until you have researched any of this, save your ignorant opinion for someone that cares.

11:34PM 06/10/08 ec

FYI: FYI the last thing I would EVER want to be is a doctor! So mature of you to stoop to name calling. I guess when you don't have anything educated to actually say, you feel the need to fill the gaps. It is a great thing she is in France b/c she has a MUCH higher chance of succeeding then she would in this country. Although there are many women that succeed in this country too every day. I am not meaning to discredit them, only our dysfunctional maternity system.

10:26PM 06/10/08 jenniferM

Jesus H Christ!!! You kooky people telling these stupid stories about having babies at home without help and all these natural birth stories. How completely DUMB are you. no one believes any of that shit. its just more OH HOW WONDERFUL WE SHOULD ALL BE LIKE ANGIE crap. get real. no one is dumber than you are except the dope who buys into your tall tails. So to the women out there who REALLY are preggers, talk to your doctor. You know the one with the education and training otherwise youre risking your own life and your babies life too. As for you Angie wannabes with your foolish unbelieveable crap: SHUT THE F*CK UP before some idiot does something ignorant.

11:47AM 06/10/08 Tami

I think it is wonderful she is planning on a a VBAC! Unlike all the other stars that are planning their c-sections and tummy tucks. To each their own though. To a pp doctor's choose to do c-sections because they are faster and less time consuming. An OB is nothing more than surgeon trained to cut a baby out of a woman, that with out medical interventions (inductions being a big one) could deliver that baby naturally. There is only a small percent of women who truly for medical reasons need c-sections. To Kellie yes I guess you can call me weird..I chose to have my daughter at home and deliver her myself unassisted. I will do it again with the next one. Birth is a natural process not a medical emergency (in all cases). Like I said to each their own.

11:07AM 06/10/08 kellie

I wish you all good luck with your VBAC but have any of considered why is it you feel so desperate to have it? Yall seem so obsessed with how your having the baby. Trust your body? that just sounds stupid. I think your all messed up in the head. Did yall get pregnant again becuase you wanted another baby? Or did you get pregnant again just to try have have a VBAC. Yall sound as weird as Angelina Jolie.

8:35AM 06/10/08 Liz

OH, and im having an all natural VBAC at home this October!!! Im super excited :) and ive known several moms who have sucessfully VBAC'd! It can be done and it IS done everyday!

8:33AM 06/10/08 Liz

GO FOR IT ANGIE!!!!!! Your a smart cookie, trust your body and have that VBAC! Women all over the world have natural vaginal births after c sections and they are just fine! The risks of c sections are GREATER than the risk of anything going wrong with a VBAC (which is like 1 to 3%) Good luck to you and yours, hope you have a happy delivery!

11:43PM 06/09/08 Princess Yeti

There is a condition called CPD out there. Its very real and very dangerous for mother and child. All of you EXPERTS should KNOW what this is without having to look it up....that is IF you are for real. As for the mortality rates in the US involving childbirth, you people who are pro VBAC and hinged on the comparison studies involving infant mortality rates in the world, need to do your research or at least get an education that would clue you into the cause of higher mortality rates in the US. In this country, as much as I love it here, prenatal care is costly. So much so that a large percentage of women simply cannot afford the preventative care needed to sustain a healthy pregnancy and deliver a healthy baby. THAT is fact. Is has little to do with the C-Section issue. The mortality rate does not evolve from the surgical intervention of a Cesarean Section as a surgical procedure but it has largely to do with the complications that require a C-section such as; Gestational Diabetes, toxemia, fetal distress and yes, CPD. All incidents that could be dramatically decreased by adequate prenatal care. I have read every nasty remark on here. I find it ridiculous. Stick to the facts. Twins are delivered more safely in a sterile environment that inflicts the least amount of stress on their already compromised status. Yes a C-section is more invasive for the mother but what loving mother wouldn't sacrifice her own well being to ensure the comfort and safety of her child. Of course if a woman has already had a C-section, the risks for the mother and child nearly double. Angelina needs to get some counseling for this inferiority complex she has about have had her first child by C-section. After all the end goal of pregnancy is to give life to the unborn child you carry by whatever method necessary. Every healthy baby born is a success story whether by C-section or not.

8:59PM 06/09/08 sarah

I am happy to hear that Jolie and Pitt are well-informed enough on their childbirth options to have the twins born at home with midwives! A previous cesarean is not reason enough to dictate how future births will be, not even when twins are involved. Birth itself is not a medical condition. Families who give birth at home and/or have VBACs have often done more research on the subject of childbirth than the average consumer, or else they wouldn't have made the decision they did. I had a VBAC in a hospital, I had another baby at home after that.

8:19PM 06/09/08 K.B.

Actually, fyi, I HAVE given birth in and outside of the U.S. Can you say the same? My first was born in the U.S. and my second in Finland. Guess where my experience AND my babies WELL-BEING was better?! By the way, I don't have a general complaint about the U.S. Never said I did. Born and raised here. See it's faults...still think it's better than most other places in the world. My complaint is about the maternity care situation here. I will answer your question...again...as I see it's been answered a fair few already. Doctors continue to do c-sections because it is convenient for them and because it makes them money. The difference between a natural, vaginal birth and a c-section is the difference between a Geo and a Porsche. Now...why don't YOU try to "step off" since you are the only one lacking civility.

7:07PM 06/09/08 Susan

It's really a shame that FYI felt that he or she had to stoop to nasty expletives in this discussion and, in so doing, lowered the tone of discussion on this list. Why, you ask, FYI, do OBs do cesarean surgery? That's a good question and difficult to answer when one realizes that the national rate of cesarean surgery in the US is around 33% and, in some areas, as high as 50%. FYI, just think: how could THAT high a percentage be justified? How could one-half of all women at a particular hospital or in a particular town require surgery in order to give birth? Could there really be THAT many women having genuine problems delivering vaginally? The American Public Health Association, the World Health Organization, the national Coalition to Improve Maternity Services -- all these respected organizations think the rate is way too high. And, you see, all the recent medical literature has begun to recognize that the mortality and morbidity (that's death and injury) rates for both mother and baby are significantly HIGHER with cesarean surgery than with vaginal birth. Furthermore, one of the chief causes of prematurity in the U.S., we have recently learned, is the high rate of c-sections -- taking babies out of their mothers by surgery prior to 40 weeks gestation. The people responding on this list who are talking about the benefits of vbac and the risks of cesareans are not just making this up or selfishly seeking an "experience." Rather, we have read the medical literature and we know that major questions are being raised about the skyrocketing rate of cesarean surgery in this country today. ACOG's guidelines on VBAC are not based on solid medical evidence but, rather, seem to be chiefly concerned with using c-sections as a way to protect the OBs from getting sued, not necessarily to achieve an optimal outcome for the woman and baby. So, if Ms. Jolie chooses to give birth in France, where obstetricians and hospitals are not so quick to condemn vbac as you, FYI, it is perfectly understandable.

6:52PM 06/09/08 Another Brooke

First off, I can't stand Angelina Jolie. BUT, if she's for real about having a twin VBAC, MORE POWER TO HER!!! That's wonderful. If people really do their research, the FACTS do point to the safely of VBACing. It's that OB's face exorbitant costs for malpractice ins. if they offer VBACs. That's the reason no one offers them anymore. Ask some OB's if you don't believe me.

6:49PM 06/09/08 Kara Jane

Woo hoo! Go Angelina! Maybe her highly publicized VBAC will wake up the women of America who have been making bad decisions when it comes to childbirth for years now. I had an amazing natural, out of hosipital birth in January. I'm sure Angelina's will be beautiful as well!

5:13PM 06/09/08 another susan

HEY fyi, FIRST OFF, THERE IS NO SUCH THING AS AN EXACT SCIENCE ESPECIALLY MEDICINE...AT BEST IT IS SOMETIMES NOTHING BUT A GOOD GUESS... AND YES I AM YELLING.... DR'S AND THE HOSPITALS MAKE MORE MONEY... AND THEY GET HOME ON TIME. THEY DONT MISS DINNER WITH THEIR FAMILIES ! THEY GET PLAY GOD AND SHOW UP AS THE HERO AFTER THE FACT.. I COULD GO ON BUT WHY WASTE MY TIME ON SOMEONE WHO'S MIND IS CLOSED TO NEW IDEAS! WHEN YOU STOP QUESTIONING YOU STOP LEARNING AND WHEN YOU STOP LEARNING YOU MIGHT AS WELL BE DEAD.. IT MUST BE GREAT TO KNOW IT ALL AND BE SO SMART THAT ALL YOU CAN WRITE ARE COLORFUL EXPLITIVES. ME NOT STEPPING OFF.. have a great day!

3:15PM 06/09/08 fyi

K.B. Step off. You still haven't answered the question as to why doctors continue to do c-sections if vaginal birth is safer. If you know anything about US healthcare, you would know that c-sections allow a woman to stay in the hospital longer than a vaginal deliver. SO, since when has the healthcare system wanted to take on unnecessary expenses? I would think that the pressure would be on the doctors to do vaginal deliveries more often than not. Keep the costs down for health carriers. Apparently you're another one speaking from NO experience. Another idiot complaining about the US ! You don't like it, don't come here. If you live here already.... leave! Unless you have delivered a child in the US and out of the country as well - then you have no comparisons at all . Shut your pie hole and call it a day!

0:07PM 06/09/08 K.B.

More often than not, vaginal and natural birth IS safest for babies...and for mothers. EVEN AFTER c-sections. This is one of the ONLY countries in the world where that isn't viewed and respected as solid fact because we have a completely BOGUS maternity care system!

9:56PM 06/08/08 Brooke

Wow am I SICK of hearing how important it is to give birth naturally or vaginally. They should do what is safest for the babies. Who cares if the mother wants a "natural" experience. My sister has three kids and two are twins. After she had her first son C-Section, she thought about trying for this VBAC. The doctors explained the risks to the twins and she said "NO WAY" She decided her "experience" wasn't important because all that mattered was her little babies. Angelina is a selfish bitch to endanger her unborn children with the stress of childbirth when a C-Section would obviously be safer for them all. I think its all BS anyway cause I think she said all this to get people talking. That is how self centered she is.

9:18PM 06/08/08 Freeda

Been there. Done that. My first child was born by emergency cesarean. My next at home with a midwife. Then twins born at home with a midwife. Everyone healthy and well. Couldn't imagine taking care of twins plus two older children after a cesarean (it was hard enough taking care of one after the cesarean). As far as educated I have a BA and I'm a Life & Health Insurance Fellow and at the time was an Internationally Certified Childbirth Educator. I also spoke with Dr. Michel Odent and Dr. Marsden Wagner about the risks and benefits of HBAC twin and both said there wasn't enough research available to able to use the law of large numbers. I know of one other mom who also did twin HBAC successfully so the more who do the more data we'll have. Best wishes to Angelina. I hope she gets off bed rest. I swam 30 minutes a day (15 min. and then a break before the next 15 min.) and went full term with my twins.

8:09PM 06/08/08 K.B.

Who's dumber than a stump...one who is "educated" from only one source with a VERY vested interest in their slanted teachings? Or a person who goes out of their way and spends time gathering and poring over information from ALL sources?! And then, why was it necessary to stoop to name calling? Intelligent, non-dumber-than-a-stump people don't need to resort to name calling because they have the goods to back up their arguments.

7:58PM 06/08/08 fyi

Sarah : So if a c-section is so much riskier, then why do the doctors opt to do more often than not? I would assume a risky surgery such as c-section could cause many malpractice suits for doctors that screw it up. Vaginal birth is obviously safer but not when you've already had a c-section and are carrying twins... you dumber than a stump b*tch! there's your sarcasm!

6:22AM 06/08/08 Sarah

Yes, fyi, because major abdominal surgery is SO much less risky than a natural, vaginal birth. She is being SO selfish for choosing a safe way to birth her baby in a country MUCH safer than the US. How dare she choose the life of her babies over the politics of the US! {all that said with heavy sarcasm of course}

6:16AM 06/08/08 fyi

ec: step off asshole. I see we have alot of doctor wannabe's on this thread. stop praising this dopey woman! she's not the first woman to want natural childbirth!!she didn't even want bio kids and now she's on her kick about wanting a natural birth after already having a c-section. It may seem like a fine idea to do away with a c-section on your second pregnancy with twins - but it's not practical. It's a good thing she's in France cause that shit wouldn't fly in the US! she's pretty selfish anyone, so I can see how she wouldn't take into consideration the life of her twins. yeah the big risk taker that she is will do anything for an adrenaline rush!!!

9:57PM 06/07/08 ec

Princessw Yeti, you need to step out of your medical minded brain and realize that in 90% of the cases childbirth is not an illness that needs medical intervention. It is medical intervention that has raised are C-section rates to 33%. The US spend double what any other country spends a year in maternity care. In a study of 13 developed counties, the US ranked LAST for neonatal mortality and infant mortality overall. We ranked 11th for postnatal mortality. That study came out of the July 26, 2000 issue of the Journal of the American Medical Association. It is people like you that are responsible for the sickened mindset of the average American woman who has been taught that she can't give birth w/o interventions in a hosp. In the majority of the other countries in the study, the midwife is the primary caregiver. The country that has the BEST rates uses midwifes and has at least 30% of their babies at home. The US has 1% of the babies born at home, so it is clear that this study is talking about babies born in our "safe" hospitals. The odds do not sound good to me. VBACs are entirely possible as are vaginal deliveries of twins. Go Angelina!

9:46PM 06/07/08 Shanna

Kudos to Angelina for doing what is best for those babies. I can not believe the ignorance people are spewing here. The chances of a VBAC (vaginal after cesarean) are great, especially in this day and age and since most cesarean cuts are horizontal). Natural birth is the healthiest on Mother and Baby and I am so glad she is being proactive about bringing those children into this world in the BEST way possible. I am so glad she is doing this in France. The US not only has the highest c-section rate in the industrialized world, we also have the highest infant mortality rate in it as well. Coincidence? I highly doubt it!

9:41PM 06/07/08 emily

Good for her! Natural childbirth is the most empowering experience ever! I hope she has the birth she wants. That is what we all deserve. It is nice to see a celebrity get it after the ridiculous "too posh too push" attitude that has warped Americans' minds. I say I am too powerful not to push! For all of you judging her w/ your lack of research, go watch "The Business of Being Born" already. It is time that the US wakes up to realize that we are in a crisis with our beliefs about childbirth. You go girl!

6:59PM 06/07/08 K.B.

Hip hip hooray, for Ms. Jolie!!! It is nice to see not everyone must be a slave to American birth trends, which are sad, misguided, and DANGEROUS! I am happy to see one very public figure has educated herself and is making decisions against the herd mentality! Maybe she can be a beacon to others who might not otherwise know that they have a better choice!

6:10PM 06/07/08 Sierra

Yay! I am so happy for her and I hope everything works out!!!

5:41PM 06/07/08 Jenna

She doesn't have to "pray" that things go as planned... She has an excellent chance. Vaginal birth after cesarean (VBAC) is actually FAR safer for all involved than is a planned repeat cesarean. Geez! Do some research before you write something so negligent of the facts. Her chances are even better if she doesn't step foot into a hospital. Yep, that's right... every intervention gives you a higher chance of something going wrong. If those interventions (pitocin, epidural, electronic fetal monitoring) aren't available (i.e. in an out of hospital setting), your body actually has a chance to do what it does best - birth your baby. Angelina Jolie is my hero for doing this in the face of media scrutiny. I'm wishing her many happy birthing vibes.

4:59PM 06/07/08 Sarah

I think it's wonderful she's going for a VBAC (if she really is), and the fact that she's in France to do it makes sense.... US doctors don't usually do it, which is really sad. The c-section rate in this country is extrememly high (31% the last I heard), but the infant mortality rate is also very high (second highest behind Latvia, in developed countries), which doesn't really make sense. It IS due to liability reasons, exactly what Princess Yeti said. But not because it's so dangerous, but because people in America sue for everything and anything. So doctors take the safe route and just do a repeat c-section. I HAVE heard of women having VBACs, it's not THAT unheard of, but it should be a lot higher of a percentage. If you keep synthetic drugs out of mom's system, the risk of uterine rupture is actually quite low. Now, add Cytotec, Pitocin, etc into the mix, and yes, the risk goes up. So keep the drugs out of mom and let nature take it's course!

4:16PM 06/07/08 Jess

American Drs. don't like to perform VBACs and a lot refuse. Maybe that's why she doesn't have her children in America. She's strong and determined. I wish her well. I also don't believe that she would do anything to put herself or her children in danger. I bet she has a back up just in case:)

3:44PM 06/07/08 Danell

I had a homebirth VBAC with a 9 lb 6 oz baby. I'd do things exactly the same if I had 10 lb twins, because I value the integrity of my body and my uterus. I don't want it sliced and diced multiple times, endangering the present and future pregnancies. Twins run in my family, so it's something I've given great thought to. So while I'm surprised that Jolie would consider this (being from Hollywood), and won't really believe it until I see it, I think it's wonderful that she's considering it.

3:31PM 06/07/08 Rose

VBAC is safer than repeat c-section. EVEN WITH twins! I had a c-section with my first baby because he was breech. I had a VBAC with my daughter and am having another VBAC with this baby. The reason repeat c-sections are so high is because misinformation is given to women about the risks and benefits. C-sections are also more convenient for doctors. It's a sad state of affairs.

3:19PM 06/07/08 Lauren

How fantastic!! Natural home birth is an incredible experience. Mine was life changing. It's great that she has the resources to get the birth she wants and deserves in France. Too bad most women in the USA don't have access to midwifery, homebirth, or VBACs of any kind (let alone twin vbac!). Best of luck to her and her family!

2:39PM 06/07/08 VBAC Provider

I am a midwife who is able to provide the option of VBAC in an out of hospital setting along with the collaboration of an OB if necessary. I have been following Angelina Jolie's pregnancy with great interest. I am currently caring for a woman due with twins at about the same time as Ms. Jolie. And yes, she too is planning a VBAC with twins. This will be her second VBAC. Often at her prenatal appointments we have played the guessing game as of how much longer my patient will carry due to her excellent health, nutrition, and care from providers experienced in VBAC. How delighted we were to see that Ms. Jolie has been able to assemble a team that can provide optimal prenatal care and VBAC safely, if she chooses to pursue that safe and viable option. The substantial amount of scientific literature on VBAC is solid that uterine rupture rates are not statistically significant, although they can and do occur. What is also solid in the literature is that cesarean birth carries some serious long term risks for mothers and pregnancies that are very statistically significant, such as increased risk of miscarriage and stillbirth for subsequent pregnancies, along with a very dangerous condition called placenta accreta where the placenta grows into the uterine wall and can cause life threatening hemorrhage after a birth. The chances of accreta increase with the number of cesareans performed, so VBACing is a very safe and logical means of preventing a condition which can cause a woman to loose her uterus, and her future fertility. As well, there is a substantial and ever growing body of evidence that cesarean birth has long term implications in the rates of Asthma, and digestive issues for children, along with other immune system and GI problems. I do not see women being adequately counseled on these risks with the first cut. I think it is very, very important to remember that what is "typical' maternity care practice does not mean "normal" or "health promoting" maternity care. I do hope that the United States growing trend of an out of contol cesarean rate and it's attending long term morbidity for mothers and babies, is finally coming to a screeching halt as the US is forced to look at it's pitiful ranking in health measurements. I wish the best to Ms. Jolie's family, and all VBACing families in the United Sates who are often times forced to leave there towns or home states to find practitioners who are able to provide the evidenced based care that they deserve and should be able to receive in the United States.

1:58PM 06/07/08 another susan

i fully support the jolie-pitts decison to have a vbac with twins... current research in many repsected medical journals supports this. this is not about a dr's right to refuse because he is afraid or because the insurance company has told him he cant.. this is about the reproductive rights of a woman to make thoughtful choices about her own health care. it is not your or anyone elses choice to make,, i further support susan and elizabeths thoughts and ideas. i also support your decisions to disagree; but i do not support the unkind thoughtless way in which your opinions are meant to belittle others..what makes any of you assume that either one is uneducated.. in susan defense, i happen to know her educational background and susan for one does not need to answer to anyone for her very well informed intelligent opinion..this is 2008 and as you said you cant get all your information and education from the internet but it sure does help to expand the horizons of those who wish to see it all and decide for themselves. susan/midwife

1:51PM 06/07/08 Lea

Twins come out one at a time, just like single babies. She's a strong, courageous woman who clearly knows what she wants and is willing to do what it takes to get it. She can do it!

1:42PM 06/07/08 Elizabeth

As a family physician and the medical director of a birth center, I have reviewed the world literature on birth safety, especially with regards to attendant and place of birth. I was excited to find out that we FP's have better outcomes than OB's. The fact that midwives have better outcomes still has humbled me and motivated me to help create a system of maternity care that serves every woman, regardless of her beliefs, her ethnic background, her race, or her religion. Calling each other quacks or ridiculing each other's way of learning won't help develop that. Publicly criticizing the choices of a pregnant woman won't help either. Angelina, like every mother everywhere, deserves support and encouragement, especially since she's decided to do something that isn't mainstream, won't be easy, but will be in the best interest of her babies. VBAC's are becoming rarer and rarer in the US, the Centers for Disease Control is worried that the rising cesarean section rate may be contributing to the increasing rate of women who die in childbirth or soon after. Personally, and professionally, attending women who want VBAC is one of my greatest privileges. In my experience, women cared for by midwives can often take twins to term and give birth to two big babies, but they have to eat a lot and wisely. Yup, she's swimming upstream to go for a VBAC with twins, and i bet she would have a hard time trying to find a doctor in the US to support her enthusiastically. I hope she is in France because that's where she wants to be, not a part of a trend I'm hearing about--women who leave the US to get a VBAC. I wish her the best. What a courageous and strong woman. She'll be even stronger on the other side of this experience!

10:33AM 06/07/08 alabama

It sure does sound like there are some people who are envious of Angelina. I believe we are supposed to have natural childbirth, the way God intended it to be. Times have changed to the point that is the rarity, either you have a C-section or they induce, both of which do cause harm to the baby. I say good luck the natural way and we should all be praying that Brad and Angelina have healthy beautiful babies that grow up to care about other people and cultures! God bless, Sweet Home Alabama

5:43AM 06/07/08 K

I think Susan has missed the point. The discussion is regarding having a VBAC while carrying TWINS. Princess Yeti is dead on right. It does cause a risk to the babies especially if born prematurely. But I also agree that the percentage of c-sections are ridiculous! We all know damn well that most of these celebrities schedule their delievery ahead of time before a potential problem has even occurred. Regardless of scientific evidence, common sense says NO vaginal birth with twins after a c-section. It's dangerous. Peiod.

0:55AM 06/07/08 Princess Yeti

Susan? You need to go and get an education in medicine, nursing or ANY form of education. Reading statistics on an internet site is NOT a form of education. In my field I HAVE done the research and case studies that absolutely support my above statement. Go ahead though and argue that I am SOOOO wrong. Reality is what it is whether you like it for poor Angie or not.

4:51PM 06/06/08 Susan

Actually, a good deal of highly respected evidence-based medical research is showing that VBAC is safer and a better option that a second c-section. The outcomes for both mothers and babies are significantly better with vbac than with cesarean surgery. Just because far too many U.S. obstetricians and hospitals are more worried about lawsuits than about what is truly best for women and babies does not mean that their refusal to "allow" vbac births in their practices or on the L & D units constitutes the best practice. As an RN with a master's degree in nursing, Princess Yeti should go to the library and read some of the most recent articles in the leading medical journals. Maybe that's why it's a good idea for Ms. Jolie to give birth in France with a midwife. In France, as in most of Western Europe, midwives provide the great majority of maternity services, calling in OBs as "consultants" on cases that they consider more complicated. And every one of those countries has better birth statistics than the U.S., which is only ranked 30th. The U.S. rate for cesarean surgery (which is major abdominal surgery, isn't it, Princess Yeti?) is over 31% and rising. In some cities and some hospitals, it is edging beyond 40%. Can it be possible that 40% of American women are unable to give birth vaginally, or is this merely one of the signs that something is wrong with the maternity care system in the U.S.? A physiologic birth (a term used by many today rather than "natural" birth), a vaginal birth, is simply what will happen if you don't interrupt the process. I extend my very best wishes to Ms. Jolie for a good birth and much happiness with the new members of her family.

1:30AM 06/06/08 Renee

A VBAC with twins after a c-section previously? I don't think so Angie...

0:09AM 06/06/08 Kaaka

Shut the hell up all of you damn morons! You're all pathetic! hahahahaah

7:33PM 06/05/08 Princess Yeti

FYI. I am an L/D MSN RN. VBAC is not an option in todays time. Obstetricians will not assume the malpractice liability of allowing a former C-sect to labor naturally. Unless she finds a quack to dangerously attempt this, she will have another C-section and will just have to do as she has always done-fabricate a story about her "childbirth" experience. There was a time in the late 80's and 90's when they would allow an attempted VBAC but the practice is virtually unheard of now due to the mortality risk associated with uterine rupture-not only for the mother but also for the child (children). Whoever believes this ridiculous story probably also believes that Angelina was a virgin when she met Brad. For God sake people do your research before you attempt to argue. Also....K is absolutely correct. Due to the low gestational weight of twins, C-section is the preferred method of delivery for twins because they are almost ALWAYS preterm and it imposes less stress on already at-risk fetuses.

6:03AM 06/05/08 K

Karen - then why do you ALMOST never hear of it, if the chances are so "fantastic"?! Anyone I've ever known (and I know plenty of women) has always had a c-section for the 2nd and 3rd child after having the first c-section. Personally, I've done natural. In this day and age twins are rarely born vaginally! Maybe you need to stop using "one" example as the norm.

4:43AM 06/05/08 Karen

K, I'm afraid that you are not well-informed at all. The chances of a VBAC are fantastic, especially since if I hear correctly, the reason for Shiloh's cesarean birth was that she was breech. Twins can certainly be born vaginally, regardless of previous cesarean surgery. I wish them the best of luck!

7:54PM 06/04/08 K

Natural childbirth? Give it a break! She already had a c-section, chances of vaginal birth after that are slim. Yes, some people can do it, however, she needs to PUSH two babies out of her NOT one. Here she goes again trying to play superwoman! This act is getting old. $22mil for photos of babies??? NO wonder Brad is out buying expensive shitty looking furniture! Free remodeling paid for by People mag!